{"id":56260,"date":"2023-08-22T12:22:51","date_gmt":"2023-08-22T10:22:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/?p=56260"},"modified":"2023-08-22T12:22:51","modified_gmt":"2023-08-22T10:22:51","slug":"interview-lavvi-ebbel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/en\/interview-lavvi-ebbel\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview: Lavvi Ebbel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Before Britpop there was BelPop, the Belgian equivalent of the punk and new wave rebellion from the late 70s and early 80s. Lavvi Ebbel was one of the most important bands of the scene, debuting in the classic compilation <em>Get Sprouts<\/em> and recorded some of the hymns of the time. We have talked with <\/span><span class=\"mw-page-title-main\" style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Luckas Vander Taelen, singer and frontman of the classic band that reveals some details from the band career and his own too. They will be opening the Batcave stage this weekend at Belgian W-Fest that will take place in the beach of Ostend.<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-56278\" src=\"https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Labbi1-300x203.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"304\" srcset=\"https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Labbi1-300x203.jpg 300w, https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Labbi1-768x518.jpg 768w, https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Labbi1-585x395.jpg 585w, https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Labbi1.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014<strong>Honestly, I did not realize until last week that my wife said it, that the name of the band sounds like La Vie est belle. Maybe because I am not French. Why did you choose such a name for the band?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014When I was talking with the guitarist about starting a band, I noticed there was an ashtray where in French was written &#8220;La Vie est Belle&#8221;. It gave me the idea for the band\u2019s name, written in a phonetic way. It made some people think we were a group of Jewish Sicilian folk!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014<strong>Although you are from Aalst, most of you met at the Vrije Universiteit Brussel. How was the atmosphere there at the time? A few other bands came out from there, didn\u2019t they?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014We met in Aalst, not at the VUB. I studied there and met with Jan Weuts, who played trumpet and Eric Michiels, who changed his name to Eric Sleimich and played saxophone. They became <strong>Lavvi Ebbel\u2019<\/strong>s horn-section and also played with <strong>Allez-Allez<\/strong>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014The band formed in 1977. How were the first years before the release of the first single?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014We played a lot all over Flanders and composed many good songs. There were so many that we only played the new ones and forgot the older. Now, in 2023, listening to old tapes, we discovered these treasures and play them again!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014What were your influences back then?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014The obvious: <strong>Sex Pistols<\/strong>,<strong> The Clash<\/strong> but also <strong>Devo<\/strong> and <strong>Talking Heads<\/strong>. Short songs, played fast, punk, but with organ and horns!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014Do you consider Lavvi Ebbel as pioneers of the BelPop \u201cscene\u201d? Do you like the term?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014We were part of a wave of very creative groups, like <strong>Luna Twist<\/strong> and Arno\u2019s <strong>TC Matic<\/strong>, with whom we toured a lot. There was certainly a Belgian spirit, so BelPop is a very good term.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014I guess the compilation <\/strong><em><strong>Get Sprouts<\/strong><\/em><strong>, where Lavvi Ebbel appeared for the first time, was<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-56281\" src=\"https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/labbi4-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/labbi4-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/labbi4-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/labbi4.jpg 516w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/> important for the band. The Kids said that it had a distribution of 80 000 copies. You recorded a special song for the album. How do you remember the recording and what happened after?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014It was the first time we worked with Jean-Marie Aerts as a producer. He was then <strong>TC Matic<\/strong>\u2019s guitar player. He gave us a very original sound. We worked with him after this session on the single with our &#8220;hit&#8221; Victoria.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014Do you think that the band shared the sense of paranoia\/restlessness of the time in its music? Give me a gun and its first sentence could be an example: it\u2019s 1981, and the world is getting worse every day.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014I studied history and was very involved with politics. We read several newspapers a day and many books. So, the injustice in the world seemed enormous in my eyes. That what &#8220;Give me a gun&#8221; is about, although the text of the chorus came to me after a friend killed himself and it&#8217;s more about the \u2018sense of life\u2019. I tell his story also in &#8220;No Place to Go&#8221; on <em>Get Sprouts.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014What happened in Belgium in 1981 that Lavvi Ebbel and Allez Allez released their first single meanwhile TC Matic published their first album? Were you friends with them? Did the record companies open their arms to new bands?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014We all knew each other; we shared the same energy. The record companies began to see the commercial possibilities. We drew a huge audience. But there were no rock radios and TV did not talk about the BelPop. That put a terrible break on record sales. It would lead to the end of the first BelPop-wave&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014Talking again about TC Matic, J-M Aerts was the producer of most of your works. You just said that he gave the band a very original sound. Do you think that he added anything else to Lavvi Ebbel?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014He was a very good musician and a magical guitarist; he still is. We were very creative, but not really good musicians. He put our energy in a very authentic and new sound.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014What happened after the release of the album <em>Kiss Me Kate<\/em>?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014We were supposed to play at the Werchter festival and that would have been the perfect promotion and breakthrough. But a few weeks before the concert, we were cancelled by the festival. Our record company was furious.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-56284\" src=\"https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/labbi3-300x203.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"304\" srcset=\"https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/labbi3-300x203.jpg 300w, https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/labbi3-768x519.jpg 768w, https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/labbi3-585x395.jpg 585w, https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/labbi3.jpg 896w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/>\u2014Why did you record a song in Mexican Spanish called \u201cTelepatia\u201d? Can you please tell us more about this?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014I had made a trip to Central America and tried to speak Spanish. The lyrics are partly taken from a book I used to study Spanish.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014What happened that the band split?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014A lot of reasons, but mostly the fact that it seemed impossible to make a career with a Belgian rock band. There was no industry, and no rock-media; the radios did not play our music. This explained why about all the groups split: <strong>TC Matic<\/strong>, <strong>Luna Twist<\/strong>&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014After the split of the band, you were part of La Cosa Nostra, a band a bit more funk. What can you please tell us about this project?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014The difference with <strong>Lavvi Ebbe<\/strong>l was that the musicians were really very good, but the band never had <strong>Lavvi Ebbel<\/strong>\u2019s joyful creativity. And again : <strong>La Cosa Nostra<\/strong> started at a very bad moment, when the BelPop wave was over and out.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014I want to ask you about a couple of things that I think got from a Kloot Per W\u2019s interview translated with the translator of Google: there was a kind of supergroup called LSP, there you played with him some Lavvi Ebbel songs, right? This led to more collaborations with him according to what I understood. Can you please tell us more of this? There was something similar called the BelPop Basterds, wasn\u2019t it?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014I played a few times with<strong> LSP<\/strong>; Kloot never did. We formed together <strong>The BelPop Bastards<\/strong> with a lot of musicians from the early BelPop. I performed some<strong> Lavvi Ebbel <\/strong>songs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014Apart from working as a journalist, you have worked in the film industry, directing but also acting. Do you think that your time with Lavvi Ebbel has influence your posterior career in other arts?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014Sure. I worked a lot with Kloot Per W as a musician. <strong>Lavvi Ebbel<\/strong> even performed a song in my last monologue.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014You have been in politics and part of the European Parliament. Did your colleagues know that you were a singer?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014Some Flemish knew, but politics are a very different world. A lot of European politicians have a very different and sometimes artistic past, but that remains mostly hidden.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014In 2013, the band came band, thanks to CC De Werf . Did you feel like playing again with the others? How did you feel during the first rehearsals?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014We had not met for thirty years! But we all felt like playing again. The first rehearsals were pretty complicated after so many years, but our performance at De Werf was as good as ever.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014Kloot Per W was the substitute for the late Francis Gheys. He is quite famous in Belgium, right? He was with the The Employees, another classic band of the period, right?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014Kloot does not play anymore with us. There were about 12 different bass-players with the band. They all had their influence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014<em>Wir Schaffen Das!<\/em> was you last single. Why do you choose as a title some Angela Merkel\u2019s words?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014It was just funny to use some soundbites and make it look like the song was about Merkel and a political statement, which it was not. Just playing with words&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014How did you develop your way of performing? Did you have any artist as a reference?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014I think I was very much influenced by<strong> David Byrne<\/strong>, who I admire a lot.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014What can you advance of the future of the band? When are we going to have a new album?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014I think we will record some of the punk songs we unearthed. I would love to perform more , so we will stream songs to tell everybody we are still around!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u2014What can we expect of you concert at W-Fest?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u2014We play the best of ourselves and better! Greatest Hits and forgotten pearls!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before Britpop there was BelPop, the Belgian equivalent of the punk and new wave rebellion&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":56276,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[30],"tags":[419],"class_list":["post-56260","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interviews","tag-w-fest-en"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Interview: Lavvi Ebbel &#8212; El Garaje de Frank<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Interviews &#8212; Interview with Belgian band Lavvi Ebble before their concert at W-Fest this weekend.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/elgarajedefrank.es\/en\/interview-lavvi-ebbel\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Interview: Lavvi Ebbel &#8212; 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